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July 26 Iran VS Civilization

George Caylor, Diane Gruber, Steve Putney Season 5 Episode 191

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July 26 Iran VS Civilization
Hello, I'm George Caylor, TeaWithGeorge.com, and today's session of Get Real is with my old friend John Vassar. John Vassar is a demographer, and that is he looks at the big picture and the intricacies of the big picture and how each detail affects every other detail. He has a special kind of brain. He's also a military strategist, and even though he's old, not as old as I am, but he's old, he and others like him never quite retire from that. And today I would like to talk to him about what's going on in Iran. Good morning, John. Good morning, George. It's a pleasure to be here, and as your audience knows, I'm John Vassar, and if you disagree with me in any way, shape, or form, you're probably right. My opinions are my own, and they're the correct opinions.I disagree with you a couple of times, and then I looked it up afterwards, and I discovered you were right. I want to talk about Iran. I was mentioning demography before. The military action in Iran is affecting the world, even though that's just one little place there that's affecting the entire world. Why are we fighting with the people of Iran? What's going on there? We're not actually fighting with the people of Iran. We're fighting with a very small minority of the population that is keeping the majority of Persians, good people, including the Kurds, under their thumb.The Persians are traditionally the allies of the West, and especially have a close, close working relationship with the Jews that goes back thousands of years. We're only at war with certain foreign influences that have taken over the country. The IRGC, for example, the Revolutionary Guard Corps that's currently running the country right now, and over and above the civil authorities that are in civil government that we're negotiating with.Iran is important to us. One respect is the fact that the major reason we engaged them was because they were developing an atomic weapon that they had said they were going to use on Israel and us. They declared war on us around 1980, repeatedly said that they would destroy Israel and the United States.They were getting close to developing an atomic weapon, as far as we knew, and we had to shut down their program, as the Israelis did in 1980 with the famous raid on their production reactor. Then they moved all their facilities deep underground, similar to what Nazi Germany did when we started our bombing raids in 1942-43. John, mutually assured destruction.That is, if they use an atomic bomb, we would use an atomic bomb. What makes Iran and the Ayatollahs different from, don't they know that if they did use an atomic weapon on Israel or us, that they would get a lot more back than they gave? They would be destroyed. Why don't they follow that? Because their doctrine, their doctrinaire Islamists, and part of Islamic doctrine, Islamist doctrine is that the Iranians believe that they are holding the 12th Iman, that the 12th Iman is in Iran.They believe he's there. And the only way he can come back and rule is to cause an apocalypse. They feel it is a religious obligation for them to create a global apocalypse that will result in the revelations of the 12th Iman, which is one of the reasons that the amolas who run the country are moving their wealth and some of their families outside of the country to remote locations.So they really don't care if their people are going to be destroyed by the millions. If they carried something like that out, an atomic attack would destroy their own country. They really don't care.It's not fear or caring, it's an obligation. They feel obligated to do it. What do you think our chances are of actually overwhelming the Ayatollahs to the point where they say, okay, we give up, we're going to go along with civilized society, so to speak, and not do the things we're threatening? According to the Iranian Medical Association, during the last set of uprisings, since the beginning of this year, a minimum of 52,000 Persians were murdered, executed by the Ayatollahs.They're currently carrying out daily executions of people that they believe are threats to their regime, including Christians that are being slaughtered in mass. Public executions are taking place. They're hanging people from construction cranes and things like that.So we're not exactly dealing with the old Soviet Union or modern-day Russia, which are rational actors. And you're dealing with a rational actor. You can use mutually assured destruction, or even in the case of President Reagan and President Nixon, who wanted to reduce the number of atomic weapons so that an attack would not be, then an atomic war would not be totally destructive.And we could use even things on both sides, such as civil defense as a weapon, which was proposed back in, I guess, 1960 by the Eisenhower administration in the early part of the Kennedy administration. You're not dealing with normal, rational actors. Now, for example, let's look at North Korea.President Trump went to North Korea, sat down with the dictator that runs North Korea, and he came to a conclusion that it was better to make money than not war. And it was better to make money than war. When was the last time you heard anything from North Korea? Right now, North Korea, as far as we know, ceased or slowed down the development of atomic weapons.The only thing they're doing now is selling weapons in the global arms market. I guess they found it was more profitable to sell arms in the global arms market than to attempt atomic war against Japan in the United States. They just keep firing missiles.Mr. Trump said when this war began, he thought it would be over in a few weeks. He thought that they would exhaust whatever they had, that we would take out the infrastructure that would make that possible. But we're now, the Straits of Hormuz are shut down again.The Uthe, whatever Uthe rebels in Yemen are at it again. They just keep coming back like the ever-ready bunny, and it doesn't seem to matter what's happening, how much we bomb them. Where are they getting all that ammunition and missiles and drones and all that to continue this? As we remember from our experience in World War II, we are now dealing with fanatics.We believe that they may be getting resupplied through China and the North Korea. That is one of the reasons that President Trump has bombed the transportation corridors, making it impossible or very difficult to deliver arms to Iran. Now, I don't know what the Iranians are paying for, what they're using for money to pay for this, because the, how they just call the rial is their currency.It's completely dropped to billions of rials to a dollar. The country's rampant inflation, it has economically turned into a basket case. So I don't know how they're paying for these weapons.So they're being, possibly being resupplied. Also, we believe that they had underground stockpiles of weapons. This is corn Israeli intelligence.They had underground stockpiles of weapons that they've been able to accumulate over years and hold in secret locations. Now, we've been hitting those too. We've also been hitting their industrial infrastructure to keep them from making new ones.So they have a supply that's been reduced to a trickle coming in. That we've since we've bombed the rail and highway connections into Iran from the outside. And right now, we don't know how many missiles or rockets that they have there.They can fire a few, they're hitting our allies. One of the most important things is to make sure that they don't have the ability to make an atomic weapon. I can assure you the Persians have no interest in atomic power or atomic weapons.They have unlimited natural resources. They have 400-year supply of energy. Just they're sitting on top of a 400-year supply of energy.They don't need atomic energy or atomic weapons. There are very advanced people, wonderful people, that are being held under the thumb of tyranny, a tyranny that is mind-boggling in its cruelty. I read an article the other day about al-Shabaab.Al-Shabaab is located in its central headquarters in Somalia. And al-Shabaab is one of the crazy side as well. They are committing genocide against the Christians, especially in Nigeria and other places.And they're being funded by America via the Somali fraud. The Somalis in Columbus, Ohio, and they have a huge population of Somalis up there. In other places, they have the fake daycare centers, fake medical clinics and stuff.They have robbed the American taxpayers of tens of billions of dollars. And so, in effect, American Christian taxpayers are funding the genocide of Christians here and there around the world, especially in Africa. Do you believe that the ayatollahs and people like al-Shabaab are in cahoots in this that they're working together? I know that's an off-the-wall question, but there seems to be a coordinated effort here somewhere besides just the Somalis that are in America and al-Shabaab that's in Somalia.How do you see that? Is there a collusion between all these different factions of crazy Islamics? I would not rule out collusion. I wouldn't rule it out, but I would not be surprised if it turned out to exist. As far as what I know between the Somalis and the ayatollahs, I don't see a direct connection.There may be an indirect connection through third parties, but I don't see a direct connection. And some people are asking themselves, why is it important that we have all this presence in the Strait of Hormuz? And that's a question a lot of us are asking because the United States, the Strait of Hormuz, to us is really not that important. It's far more important to our allies in Asia and Europe, and very few, if any, have stepped up to assist us.I thought it was sort of interesting. The British didn't even want to come in and v

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